[12:51:11 AM] john ferranti:
an e-mai prayerl from a friend...i just got...he doesnt follow dinars but does have some... his prayer is foqr all Iraq,and us; I send him bits from this chat room from time, to time... ((F)) Cannon to the right of them cannon to the left of them ,through the Vally Of Death Rode the 600-charge the light brigade , cannon volled and thundered--Thank You GOD for making US your channels of POWER and giving us the wisdom as how to pray so that power will be used wisely and properly. GOD BLESS THE BRIGADE OF LIGHT the Army of GOD,The Christon nation-And we thank you GOD for moving everything that should be moved for the people of IRAQ. And We thank you GOD for having your Hand of safety over and around our Troops.(GOD Bless the Brigade Of Light The Army Of GOD !)
[1:01:28 AM] john ferranti: ((sun))
[1:26:37 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: Take this with a grain of salt, found on planet dinar. Exciting if true.
Contractor returns from Iraq
« on: April 28, 2011, 04:01:07 PM »
This came to me from the person that I introduced to the Dinar about 6 months ago. He emailed it to me and I called him as soon as I received it. Being that I know whom he got it from I know there is no reason for this not to be true. I got this on Monday but have had much hesitation on posting it just because I don't want to get jumped on and bashed. If you don't like the information keep your thoughts to your self and move on. For those that are just hear to take in all of the information and see how it fits the puzzle enjoy!
One of our clients, also a dinar holder, is business partners with an electrical contractor in Iraq. This same company has family that is also working with the US military disengaging land mines and other explosives.
It appears that when it comes to the contractors in Iraq, news of the RV is hush, hush. Even phone calls are monitored. When a contractor of this nature makes a phone call, if the conversation goes to dinar value or RV, the call is immediately disconnected. Many of the contractors know nothing of the RV. Such was the case with the explosives technician – until today.
Apparently, it has taken until last Friday for all of the Iraqi banks to be physically ready for the electronic transmission of rates. This explains some of the delays surrounding the RV (but not all, I am sure).
The explosives technician came very close to quitting his job in Iraq because he had not been paid for 5 weeks. (This tells me Iraq has been intending to pay contractors at the new rate for a few weeks now, but technical and other issues have slowed this down.)
His company offered to loan him money if he needed some, but he was questioning why he was not being paid by Iraq. He had previously been paid in dinar based on the old rates. He was being paid via a Smart Card. (Now, this is the first time I had personally known anyone to confirm that they actually had one of those Smart Cards in their hands and that it was actually functional. Forum rumors are one thing, but an actual person close to home is another.)
This contractor left the country unpaid and unhappy, but he still had his Smart Card (similar to a debit card). Today he discovers that he finally received the last few weeks of unpaid paychecks. There was nothing unusual about the amount he was paid (in dinar) for the work he did, but when he went to the bank to convert and draw out USD, he was given a rate equal to about $4.10/dinar.
This rate was obviously after the bank took their conversion fee and spread. When you do the math on this converted rate compared to the previously reported Smart Cart RV rate of $4.40, it reveals that the bank took a spread of 6.82%. This spread is close to, or just a bit greater than, the spread that banks commonly take when converting foreign currency (5-6%). You can go to any bank that takes Kuwaiti dinar or Euro or Canadian dollars and compare the bank rates with the CBI or FOREX rates and learn this for yourself).
Bottom line, it appears from this man's experience we have learned that:
1. The Iraqi banks are now (finally) online to receive the new rate (and from forum rumors, it appears that the international community of banks were prepared to receive the new rate over a week ago (i.e. the "pinging" that tested the system was successfully completed).
2. The rumors that their Smart Cards have been loaded at a rate close to $4.40/dinar has been physically verified.
3. The RV inside of Iraq appears to have been officially released (at least to the contractors being paid with a Smart Card).
4. WHEN the rest of the world will see the new rate, is still unknown, though common sense says we may only be only hours or days away from it showing up on the FOREX, therefore, at the banks. (This disparity in rates could give a number of contractors an exceptional advantage if it isn't rectified soon.)
Once out of Iraq, this contractor was able to be informed by others as to why he suddenly saw this unexpected massive increase in his paycheck. Guess what this contractor arranged to buy next, since there are still places in the world that sell dinar at the old rate???
[10:09:31 PM] jasmine6296: Here's the link: http://www.planetdinar.net/index.php?topic=874.0
[10:10:45 PM] jasmine6296: My husband just commented that this doesn't make sense. Where could he have cashed the smart card in the U.S.? If he did, then it has to be international already. Maybe this is another story someone made up.
[3:18:55 AM] FreedomAndEquity: fyi... from another forum..
[Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:38 PM] Randeee:
<<< [Robinredhed] SYSTEM DONE IN PLACE AND READY TO GO
[Robinredhed] EVERYONE W A JOB WILL HAVE A SMART CARD
[Robinredhed] AND WAGES WILL BE LOADED ON CARD\
[Robinredhed] AND WILL BE ABLE TO USE ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD
might help understand smart cards... perhaps that is why this fellow was able to access the funds???
[3:31:54 AM] FreedomAndEquity: GET TEAM:
7:37 PM [terryk] OK YOU ALL WANT A LITTLE JUICE
7:38 PM [terryk] YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THAT ALL 70 BANKS PASSED THE ELECTRONIC STREAMING TEST
7:38 PM [terryk] RIGHT
7:39 PM [terryk] THIS IS THE TOP 70 BANKS ACCROSS THE WORLD
7:39 PM [terryk] ONE BANK HAD A PROBLEM
7:39 PM [terryk] BOA
7:39 PM [terryk] THEY FIXED THAT YESTERDAY
7:39 PM [terryk] NOW THEY HAD TO RETEST AGAIN
7:39 PM [terryk] AND AS OF ABOUT 10 AM TODAY
7:39 PM [terryk] ALL WAS GOOD
7:40 PM [terryk] AND SOME PEEPS WERE ALLOWED TO CASH IN WITH THE BANKS AS A TESTING
[8:47:25 PM] - M: ((o))
[8:48:11 PM] Tee: 7:43 PM [terryk] LISTEN TO THIS
7:43 PM [terryk] IM HEARING THIS IS THE HANG UP TODAY
7:43 PM [terryk] AND AGAIN I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE
7:43 PM [terryk] BUT IT FITS
7:44 PM [terryk] THE FED RESERVE
7:44 PM [terryk] IS WANTING TO IMPOSE A FLAT TAX
7:44 PM [terryk] ON ALL IRAQ DINAR TRANSACTIONS
7:44 PM [jgem] 15%?
7:44 PM [terryk] YEP
7:44 PM [terryk] LEGISLATION DONT NEED TO PASS IT
7:45 PM [terryk] IT CAN RIDE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HEALTH BILL
7:45 PM [RaginCajunChick] 15%.......I likey!!!!!!!
7:45 PM [terryk] REMEMBER WAY BACK
7:45 PM [dannyc] me too
7:45 PM [gator4ever] at 6+ I welcome 15% plus pay cap gains not a big deal
7:45 PM [terryk] THERE IS THIS LITTLE LOOP HOLE FOR AN ADDITIONAL TAX
7:45 PM [terryk] JUST WATCH
7:45 PM [janicemulvaney] if its 15% why dont they just do it thats good 15%
7:45 PM [terryk] IT WILL BE LIKE THIS
7:45 PM [lawsonfarms28] on top of the other taxes we have to pay
7:45 PM [BonanzaMan] is this flat tax in addition to IRS tax?
7:45 PM [terryk] NO LAW
7:46 PM [gator4ever] TK can I ask a question
7:46 PM [terryk] ITS A FLAT 15 % IS WHAT I HEAR THEY WANT
7:46 PM [terryk] PLUS 1.5
7:46 PM [jawdove] let tk have the floor please
7:46 PM [terryk] SO 16.5%
7:46 PM [dannyc] works for me
7:46 PM [terryk] NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU HAD IT
7:46 PM [Hereiam] That is great !
7:46 PM [dannyc] would we still have to pay state tax too? ga is 6%?
7:46 PM [terryk] THATS THE RUMOR FROM MY BUDDY
7:46 PM [kaycee] dannyc ugh
7:46 PM [lawsonfarms28] sweet
7:46 PM [terryk] BETTER THAN CALIFORNIA
7:46 PM [terryk] ITS ANOTHER 10
7:47 PM [terryk] THATS ALL I HAVE
7:47 PM [terryk] NOT MUCH
7:47 PM [terryk] WE ARE WAITING
7:47 PM [terryk] FOR TONIGHT
7:48 PM [jgem] 16.5% when we cash straight to Fed Reserve and then no cap gains to pay in?
7:48 PM [terryk] THATS RIGHT GEM
[8:53:42 PM] Tee:
7:50 PM [terryk] OUR THURSDAY NIGHT IS WHAT IM HEARING
7:50 PM [terryk] AGAIN TREAT THIS AS RUMOR
7:50 PM [terryk] NOW
7:50 PM [terryk] LISTEN
7:50 PM [mike5961] tina, my new favorite best friend lol, thanks for the surprise love ya
7:50 PM [terryk] DANG IT
7:51 PM [tina] mike5961 yw.. :)
7:51 PM [jgem] So is the 16.5 deal keeping the rv from happening or we just hear post RV?
7:51 PM [terryk] I WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT CASHING IN WITH TY AS HE IS WORKING CLOSE WITH THE US TREASURY
7:51 PM [jacque47] ok TK
7:51 PM [franksgirl] Delta does not see anything happening this weekend.
7:51 PM [RaginCajunChick] Hey mike5961!!!!!!!!!!
7:51 PM [ajax] TY gets all of mine...cannot wait either...
7:51 PM [sherkay] K
7:51 PM [jgem] that seems like a no brainer...Ty it is!
7:51 PM [Agent 007] Please stop posting in the room
7:51 PM [terryk] IF YOUR WORKING WITH SOMEONE THAT IS WORKING WITH THE GOVERMENT THEN THE WIRE TRASFER SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE
7:52 PM [lawsonfarms28] thats where im going
7:52 PM [mike5961] RaginCajunChick, hello there
7:52 PM [jgem] that's GREAT!!!!
7:52 PM [gator4ever] I will go the Miami airport and cash in a little til I run out.
7:52 PM [terryk] JUST MAKE SURE YOU TELL HIM YOUR WITH THE GET TEAM
7:52 PM [terryk] HERE IS WHY
7:52 PM [AreWeThereYet?] franksgirl But he did say maybe Monday!
7:52 PM [msjeta1] 007 are you getting all this please just got in again
7:52 PM [prstar51] TK good evening, do you know if TY is going to open an exchg center in Puerto Rico?
7:52 PM [lawsonfarms28] is he going to have a place in nc
7:52 PM [terryk] TY IS GOING TO MAKE A DONATION TO THE TCB CARING HANDS 60 DAYS AFTER THE RV
[6:36:23 AM] CALAMITY JAYNE: ((coffee)) Morning
[6:38:42 AM] Stever: Good Morning.......... ((coffee))
[7:14:11 AM] rrobin: ?????//Morning, steve.
[7:14:52 AM] rrobin: perfect time for an rv rjght now!
[7:35:32 AM] Hot Pepper: Gm Jayne
[7:40:38 AM] Ed & Barb: GM ALL
[7:55:56 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: ((sun))
[8:06:25 AM] rrobin: here now, mike
[8:07:22 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: click on the converasation link up in the tool bar in the top left and then leave conversation
[8:07:50 AM] *** rrobin has left ***
[8:12:55 AM] CALAMITY JAYNE: ((o)) ((cash)) ((cash)) ((cash)) ((cash)) ((cash)) ((cash)) ((o))
[9:28:53 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: OKIE FAN OR NO OKIE FAN
----HERE IT IS: NO COMMENT ON MY PART----
GOOD MORNING AMERICA AND SHIPS AT SEA...OK, BIG WORD IN FROM A BIG HOUSE IN A BIG CITY, SHABIBI ANNOUNCED ON IRAQI TV THAT THE RV IS IMMINENT, WILL CREATE JOBS, AND BE GREAT FOR THE ECONOMY. LOWER DEMONS WILL BE RELEASED IN 24 HOURS, SUFFICED TO SAY, WE ARE THERE, MY CONTACTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CORRECT EXCEPT FOR THE DATE, I AM CRYING ON MY KEYBOARD FROM THE WONDER OF THE NEWS. BE PREPARED FOR THIS BLESSING TO HIT THIS WEEK...NUFF SAID!!!!
[9:30:36 AM] Deena Morein: Mike - where did you get this --- this sounds like the one from a week or so ago???
[9:31:03 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: From one of the other dinar rooms
[9:31:16 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: Al-Iraqiya sets one week deadline for Maliki or withdraws confidence from PM
Erbil, April 29 (AKnews)- A leader from the major Iraqi parliamentary bloc, al-Iraqiya, said Thursday his bloc expects the Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to settle the dispute over the allocation of security ministries in one week or it will take back confidence from him.
Ziyad Zarb Zubayee told AKnews the situation in Iraq cannot further withstand a government running without security ministers.
After nine months of delay, Iraqi lawmakers gathered in parliament Dec.21 to elect the new government. Almost one month later, Maliki announced part of his new 44-member cabinet. However, the security ministers were among those ranks on which the disputes are still ongoing. The PM himself runs the three ministries of interior, defense and national security temporary.
Maliki should reduce his comments against the candidates and observe them for a while, Zubayee advised the PM. If not satisfied with their conduct, he can strip them off their confidence, he added.
Some al-Iraqiya candidates for the suspended posts have been rejected by Maliki. Al-Iraqiya led by the former PM Iyad Allawi with 91 seats beat Maliki’s State of Law Coalition (SLC) in March 7 elections with a difference of two seats. However, Maliki’s Shia SLC allied with a number of other Shia blocs and formed National Coalition (NC) to precede al-Iraqiya with over 150 seats. But al-Iraqiya regards the merger a device which deprived it from the PM post and a means that led to Shia dominance in Iraq.
Al-Iraqiya PM warned should the government fail in resolving the security ministries dispute in one week, “al-Iraqiya will take position and demand parliament to withdrew confidence from Maliki.”
Zubayee criticized “all the political parties who call for a national coalition government.”
He labeled such calls “only slogans” while he thought the demand will not be met as long as “the parties are controlled by a narrow-minded mentality.”
As a proof for his claim, the lawmaker blamed the NC for “sidelining” his bloc and “going against its promises and the strategic pact in Erbil.”
What led the Iraqi lawmaker gather in parliament was an initiative by Massoud Barzani Kurdistan Regional President. The president invited leaders from the rival parties to meet in Kurdistan capital, Erbil, in December. They signed a pact whereby al-Iraqiya leader Allawi was promised a national council for strategic policies for compromising for Maliki over PM post.
The new council had to be created three months after the government formation. However, four months after the pact, the government is yet to be fully formed. There is nothing new about the strategic policies council except regular complaints of al-Iraqiya leaders, grumbling over the broken promises.
Reported by Karzan Karim
[9:31:41 AM] Cuba Libre: haha, "my contacts have always been correct except" when they weren't
[10:00:27 AM] Patriot1490: Okie did not do that quote above. Who did that Mike?
[10:14:57 AM | Edited 10:15:24 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: it was copied verbatim from another dinar room and that is all that was there
[10:21:38 AM] *mike**nesaranowwon**: RV NOW RV NOW RV NOW
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[10:26:56 AM] Ed & Barb: RV NOW. RV NOW. RV NOW:)
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