RV is out of the hands of iraqi govt - parliament seatings is not holding this up
[Merrymay] iraqi in hands of bis doesnt think formation of government has anything to do with holding it up at this point
[Lady Sarah] LRH1256 hard to say, lots of skype connectd and some bridged and thelines full from all calls
[Merrymay] sorry kids lines are garbled for me too, will try and get what i hear
[LRH1256] Lady Sarah ...thanks for the answer///
[sbc11] when Shabbibi went to IMF directly - playing political game...asked IMF to step in
[Merrymay] shabibi put it in hands of IMF becasue of maliki since he is delaying so
[sbc11] everyone needs this
[mott] we love u...Know youre doing the best you can do.....all of you
[sbc11] maliki is trying to grab for final power
[flyboy64] There ya go Merrymay, good analysis
[TEXASGAL] this cannot be in maliki's hands. he cares not for the people and has now jmo become a menace there and to the world enconmy.
[Merrymay] it is malikis grab for final power to consolidiate his position on a slippery slope
[9:36:22 PM] Randeee: [sbc11] running like a stuffed pig so he can get stuff done before RV happens
[sbc11] Maliki is doing that
[9:39:10 PM] Randeee: [sbc11] talking about article now
[jkholiday] Time warp: the year is now 2014; please continue your conversation!
[sbc11] need to delete zeros
[Merrymay] about article dropping the zeros
[Longfellow] I've just got off with DC Shabibi asked US for help to get Maliki to play ball or PULL him. Shabibi is concerned that waiting to long things will begin to fall apart and not allow for RV. They still are saying in order to get the rate requested they need to show everyone a fully seated GOI to earn there confidence. Security positions are key right now.
[sbc11] is time to RV currency
[Merrymay] cbi says it is time to reevaluate currency
[sbc11] iraqi news - time to rv currency
[Merrymay] I believe that article is available in currency news hound i read it earlier there
[shineon] jkholiday~ that was pretty funny...
[Merrymay] we may find it and post it
[rasnake77] please let merrymay transcribe
[jkholiday]
[sbc11] reading longfellow's recent post
[Merrymay] RIch queen asked dc to help pull Maliki out
[Merrymay] Sorry she says Shabibi has asked dc to help pull Maliki out asap
[jkholiday] Shabby asked DC
[Rich Queen] I am just reading what Longfellow posted
[Merrymay] get this rv rolling
[9:51:16 PM] Randeee: BONDLADY CHAT : [BWM] we are here to discuss the revaluation of the iraqi dinar...
[BWM] Shabs was on US soil today.. before we get into the questions we want everyone to have a chance to discuss this
[BWM] HL first...what did you think of speech
[BWM] and what issues come out of it..
[BWM] I found the speech interesting.. only the 10 minute version.. first question asked to him was about the RV... he repsoneded even if i know i can't tell you
[BWM] he went on how they would control inflation...
[BWM] if inflation continued they would have to address the value
[BWM] inflation on the rise
[BWM] he was asked about the 3 zero's... the answer was he didn't know if this was the same question
[BWM] he talked about the removal.. and said he didn't know if it was the same thing
[BWM] there is a redomination and a revaluation
[BWM] he talked about the things that affect the development of the economy
[BWM] the gov is spender and the cbi is the saver..
[BWM] he used the word.. propoganda
[BWM] i thought that was an interesting word..
[BWM] what he's saying is they are flooding the information to the ppl.. if you look at the last countries that tried this they didn't explain to the ppl well enough
[BWM] because the ppl thought the gov was thieving money from them
[BWM] they will wake up one day with a 20 dollar bill that's worth _____________
[BWM] he backed up his information that has been coming out the last week...
[BWM] david feels energized...
[BWM] now BL..
[BWM] it's coming soon... after all these years I'm ready...
[BWM] he did sound positive...
[BWM] I've said this from the get go that this is going to go... the ppl don't have this information available to them..
[BWM] they only get word of mouth or see something on a public tv... the ppl really need to know
[BWM] for over a month they have been trying to educate their ppl and not get ripped off from the vendors
[BWM] they don't have the big notes and may feel ripped off
[BWM] I took all this from them.. and was energized also... because Shabs rarely talks
[BWM] Joe P..
[BWM] the purpose of this meeting was to address the COC... talking to a room of multibillion dollar industries... the economy that iraq is ABOUT to show
[BWM] I got to talk to the person who took the video from youtube...
[BWM] when asked if the RV would occur...what did they expect him to say... Yes?
[BWM] he gave the political answer... but he didn't say NO
[BWM] he could have said that's not for us... or in the future but he said I couldn't tell you if i knew..
[BWM] the second question about the redenomination is a different question
[BWM] we saw the removal of the large denoms
[BWM] disagree with HL
[BWM] if things were ok with the denoms and no rv they could keep things as they were
[BWM] they took phase one and redonominated
[BWM] the final stage is going on... this is something i know the panel is aware but others might now
[BWM] in the past two days 60 articles but a high level is about the zero's aka the propoganda
[BWM] this is a good sign.. a monumental moment
[BWM] he could have sacked the RV but he didn't...
[BWM] and now Eagle..
[BWM] a different outlook on it.. what he said vs. what he didn't
[BWM] he was talking to the COC or ppl in business... and came all the way to tell them to do business... NOW and why... because you'll get more value now unless you wait til after the rv
[BWM] he said propoganda but stopped and changed his wording but it's obvious that he wants ppl to know about it
[BWM] he didn't directly address the questions
[BWM] that's what i was hoping for...
[BWM] giving a pat answer says a lot... because ppl listen
[BWM] when he gives a simplified answer he was trying to wander down the simple path
[BWM] jmo
[BWM] david speaking..
[BWM] i was so glad that he addressed the issue and didn't just laugh the issue out of the room
[BWM] this was an obvious sign that he would rather talk about these things but isn't ready... how can you put lower denoms in with the values at what they are now?
[BWM] during the last months ppl have gone into banks and have tried to communicate with their managers who've said that the dinar is a scam...then economists that have said it would come out low and increase.. then Ali comes out the last few weeks and said the same things
[BWM] why would these financial ppl have it wrong? and we the mere ppl on the streets have it right...
[BWM] HL?
[BWM] I do agree with the guys that Iraq has put themselves where these things have gone hand and hand..
[BWM] you can accomplish these things without a revalue but because of where they have put themselves they HAVE to do both...
[BWM] something that SHABS has been saying since early this year... this is not shabs decision..
[BWM] he has to have the GOI in place to pull this off...
[BWM] is this a scam? NO it's not
[BWM] if you look at other countries and how they've done this... look at Turkey...
[BWM] they were right where Iraq is in 05...
[BWM] a month before they did it they talked LOP scared them with economist that it would take time... two weeks before they said LOP
[BWM] but investors kept buying..
[BWM] they did a full media blitz saying no it's not happening... then they came out and 1 to 1 with the USD
[BWM] you can put all the economist in a room and they won't agree...
[BWM] shabs is the economist advising the situation....
[BWM] I'm going to stand behind Ali and the comments he's made... I have a saying that you trust your research... trust what you know...
[BWM] BL again...
[9:53:22 PM] Randeee: [BWM] you have to look at insider trading with this... you have to look at this like "opposite day"... I look at this because of my research this is NOT a scam...
[BWM] Ali can't speak to this... too much at stake for him... it doesn't really bother me what he says because of my research... you didn't invest in some place like siberia... you invested in Iraq... the richest country in the world.. Oil, minerals rare animals, basically the Garden of Eden...
[BWM] Pres. Bush even said we could invest in this... I invested in this ... the Garden of Eden... I trust my research
[9:57:33 PM] Randeee: [BWM] question to Joe P. and Eagle... per HL and BL there seems to be too much info coming down the pipe... what if Iraq doesn't rv in a year where are they?
[BWM] I need to say this before I answer your question.. the scam document by banks upon further investigation is from a third party circumventing their liability
[BWM] where will Iraq be in a year without an RV or with an RV.
[BWM] because i've seen the frustration of the ppl trying to buy things in the market now... they would put them in the situation of buying things with huge amounts of money in their pocket... and they tell them not to use the USD
[BWM] in a year they would be borderline revolutionary if they made it that far... oppressed ppl have a point.. they will blow themselves up with no hope... you give them hope as an eternal gift... this campaign is the gift of hope to the ppl
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