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] in a year they would be borderline revolutionary if they made it that far… oppressed ppl have a point.. they will blow themselves up with no hope… you give them hope as an eternal gift… this campaign is the gift of hope to the ppl
[4/19/2011 10:00:26 PM] Randeee: [BWM] I don’t see them being able to function 4 months without this…
[28kebo] anyone here? conference call boring
[BWM] they would be at a breaking point..
[BWM] after a year with RV…
[BWM] if they came at a low rate the vendors would have to mark their products down..
[BWM] and a managed float would not get the rate up so that they could grow the economy to attract businesses..
[BWM] I’m at a minimum of a $1 anything over that is juice
[BWM] you have another period of growth on steroids and an anchor for global stability not because we use the dinar but because they will spend to attract…
[BWM] in a year from now they could be pressing DuBai as a leading commerce
[BWM] Eagle…
[BWM] if they don’t RV..
[4/19/2011 10:05:25 PM] Randeee: [BWM] why can’t this come out less than a $1… what would you deem a rate that would be confirmed by your studies..
[BWM] BL…
[BWM] I read an economist report that said 1.17 but I see 3.33 everyday.. i think if they came out around 2.20 things would be good but then you look at Kuwait…at 3 something… and Iraq has everything the Oil reserves the minerals… everything
[BWM] Oil is pumping and gas… and is starting to turn into a boom town
[BWM] I could see it coming out in the 2 range or 3.33 with core inflation or higher IF they wanted to … they have to pay these contracts
[BWM] they would have to print more money… it can’t be all electronic
[4/19/2011 10:08:24 PM] Randeee:
[BWM] ppl want the money in their pocket.. can’t see them at $! or .86 so I would say between 2 and 3 dollars
[Lakeway] A huge majority will be electronic IMO…..
[BWM] David saying they would need billions to rebuild..
[BWM] 800 billion..
[BWM] HL now with the question.. rate
[BWM] I’m going to be flat honest.. they have to be 1 to 1
[BWM] they will crush their economy if less..
[BWM] but i’m gonna go a little further and not let iraq off the hook that easy… an article last year said the during Saddam’s era they had a rate of 3.22
[BWM] they will take another 10 billion in circulation and take less.. they are pumping more oil now than they ever have… they are giving the farmers land and grants
[4/19/2011 10:13:52 PM] Randeee: [BWM] i have seen battery plants, clothing plants, tire contracts, car contracts… they are already there.. Build Operate and Transfer.. they will come in build operate and after a given time they will transfer the assets to the government
[BWM] I’m not letting them off at 1 or 3.22…. I want to see 3.86 or better… they have said they will return their currency to their VALUE of the 80’s what is the value then vs. now and how does it transfer to exchange rate…
[BWM] David saying that Shabs printed 27 trillion dinars but he had 75% of the currency back… but I think he has continued to pull it in
[BWM] so let’s give them 85%
[BWM] that’s 3 trillion in the marketplace…
[BWM] so with the new printing… that leaves 1.5 trillion of the 3 zero notes..
[BWM] 27 billion was back in 80’s…
[BWM] today we have 3 trillion.. you say they have enough resources to back that up
[BWM] Joe P. jumping in…
[BWM] so with the 1.5 trillion out there.. they are aware in/out of the border which is important for the rate..
[4/19/2011 10:16:26 PM] Randeee: [BWM] it’s fair to assume a trillion is outside and .5 trillion inside but that’s on the high side condidering the state of the ppl…ie. giving out food today
[BWM] so I don’t take that number in to consideration because i will take that money back in.. the auction is CBI buying back the big bills from the banks

[BWM] I want to clarify the $1 but HL did that… so here is what I say…
[BWM] what do I think the rate of the dinar should be at the apex of their society’s economic engine..
[BWM] I think that number is somewhere around 4.50 ppl could argue that could be higher
[4/19/2011 10:17:36 PM] Randeee: BondLady] fyi did yall know that at 1 time iraqs exchange rate was 3.33
[BondLady]  
[BWM] CBI had the rates years ago… they will tell you… back then we were talking about 10 barrel oil and interest rates…
[BondLady] late 70’s
[Ya-Ya] BondLady  
[BondLady]  
[BWM] so when this RV moves…trillions will be moved instantly
[BWM] they will be in debt
[BWM] nighthawk is right about the foreign assets abroad that need to be moved and secured by may 5th
[4/19/2011 10:27:14 PM] Randeee:
[BWM] HL?
[BWM] I do agree with the guys that Iraq has put themselves where these things have gone hand and hand..
[BWM] you can accomplish these things without a revalue but because of where they have put themselves they HAVE to do both…
[BWM] something that SHABS has been saying since early this year… this is not shabs decision..
[BWM] he has to have the GOI in place to pull this off…
[BWM] is this a scam? NO it’s not
[BWM] if you look at other countries and how they’ve done this… look at Turkey…
[BWM] they were right where Iraq is in 05…
[BWM] a month before they did it they talked LOP scared them with economist that it would take time… two weeks before they said LOP
[BWM] but investors kept buying..
[BWM] they did a full media blitz saying no it’s not happening… then they came out and 1 to 1 with the USD
[BWM] you can put all the economist in a room and they won’t agree…
[BWM] shabs is the economist advising the situation….
[BWM] I’m going to stand behind Ali and the comments he’s made… I have a saying that you trust your research… trust what you know…
[BWM] BL again…
[BWM] you have to look at insider trading with this… you have to look at this like “opposite day”… I look at this because of my research this is NOT a scam…
[BWM] Ali can’t speak to this… too much at stake for him… it doesn’t really bother me what he says because of my research… you didn’t invest in some place like siberia… you invested in Iraq… the richest country in the world.. Oil, minerals rare animals, basically the Garden of Eden…
[BWM] Pres. Bush even said we could invest in this… I invested in this … the Garden of Eden… I trust my research
[BWM] question to Joe P. and Eagle… per HL and BL there seems to be too much info coming down the pipe… what if Iraq doesn’t rv in a year where are they?
[BWM] I need to say this before I answer your question.. the scam document by banks upon further investigation is from a third party circumventing their liability
[BWM] where will Iraq be in a year without an RV or with an RV.
[BWM] because i’ve seen the frustration of the ppl trying to buy things in the market now… they would put them in the situation of buying things with huge amounts of money in their pocket… and they tell them not to use the USD
[BWM] in a year they would be borderline revolutionary if they made it that far… oppressed ppl have a point.. they will blow themselves up with no hope… you give them hope as an eternal gift… this campaign is the gift of hope to the ppl
[BWM] I don’t see them being able to function 4 months without this…
[28kebo] anyone here? conference call boring
[BWM] they would be at a breaking point..
[BWM] after a year with RV…
[BWM] if they came at a low rate the vendors would have to mark their products down..
[BWM] and a managed float would not get the rate up so that they could grow the economy to attract businesses..
[BWM] I’m at a minimum of a $1 anything over that is juice
[BWM] you have another period of growth on steroids and an anchor for global stability not because we use the dinar but because they will spend to attract…
[BWM] in a year from now they could be pressing DuBai as a leading commerce
[BWM] Eagle…
[BWM] if they don’t RV..
[BWM] I don’t even see how it’s possible… I can’t even speculate that…
[BWM] one year if they do…
[BWM] you will see a country that the entire civilized world will be rushing to to help..
[BWM] regardless of the rate you will see a complet rebuilding of the country
[BWM] hate to be so simplistic but that’s how i see it..
[BWM] david speaking…
[BWM] I tend to go with BL in the prediction from past research… to replace the dollar in the marketplace with dinars.. I’m going to tread on hallowed ground
[BWM] why can’t this come out less than a $1… what would you deem a rate that would be confirmed by your studies..
[BWM] BL…
[BWM] I read an economist report that said 1.17 but I see 3.33 everyday.. i think if they came out around 2.20 things would be good but then you look at Kuwait…at 3 something… and Iraq has everything the Oil reserves the minerals… everything
[BWM] Oil is pumping and gas… and is starting to turn into a boom town
[BWM] I could see it coming out in the 2 range or 3.33 with core inflation or higher IF they wanted to … they have to pay these contracts
[BWM] they would have to print more money… it can’t be all electronic
[BWM] ppl want the money in their pocket.. can’t see them at $! or .86 so I would say between 2 and 3 dollars
[Lakeway] A huge majority will be electronic IMO…..
[BWM] David saying they would need billions to rebuild..
[BWM] 800 billion..
[BWM] HL now with the question.. rate
[BWM] I’m going to be flat honest.. they have to be 1 to 1
[BWM] they will crush their economy if less..
[BWM] but i’m gonna go a little further and not let iraq off the hook that easy… an article last year said the during Saddam’s era they had a rate of 3.22
[BWM] they will take another 10 billion in circulation and take less.. they are pumping more oil now than they ever have… they are giving the farmers land and grants
[BWM] i have seen battery plants, clothing plants, tire contracts, car contracts… they are already there.. Build Operate and Transfer.. they will come in build operate and after a given time they will transfer the assets to the government
[BWM] I’m not letting them off at 1 or 3.22…. I want to see 3.86 or better… they have said they will return their currency to their VALUE of the 80’s what is the value then vs. now and how does it transfer to exchange rate…
[BWM] David saying that Shabs printed 27 trillion dinars but he had 75% of the currency back… but I think he has continued to pull it in
[BWM] so let’s give them 85%
[BWM] that’s 3 trillion in the marketplace…
[BWM] so with the new printing… that leaves 1.5 trillion of the 3 zero notes..
[BWM] 27 billion was back in 80’s…
[BWM] today we have 3 trillion.. you say they have enough resources to back that up
[BWM] Joe P. jumping in…
[BWM] so with the 1.5 trillion out there.. they are aware in/out of the border which is important for the rate..
[BWM] it’s fair to assume a trillion is outside and .5 trillion inside but that’s on the high side condidering the state of the ppl…ie. giving out food today
[BWM] so I don’t take that number in to consideration because i will take that money back in.. the auction is CBI buying back the big bills from the banks
[BWM] I want to clarify the $1 but HL did that… so here is what I say…
[BWM] what do I think the rate of the dinar should be at the apex of their society’s economic engine..
[BWM] I think that number is somewhere around 4.50 ppl could argue that could be higher
[BondLady] fyi did yall know that at 1 time iraqs exchange rate was 3.33
[BondLady]  
[BWM] CBI had the rates years ago… they will tell you… back then we were talking about 10 barrel oil and interest rates…
[BondLady] late 70’s
[Ya-Ya] BondLady  
[BondLady]  
[BWM] so when this RV moves…trillions will be moved instantly
[BWM] they will be in debt
[BWM] nighthawk is right about the foreign assets abroad that need to be moved and secured by may 5th
[BWM] so how did i get to 4.50 knowing the imf guidelines.. the imf is basically guarantee this amount…so you can float this at 2% every 90 over 2 years
[BWM] they would have to RV again that would catastrophic…
[BWM] they would need to get into the market and work up…
[BWM] they would start in the mid 3’s and work up without a strain…
[BWM] I think a good starting point would be in the high 2’s… that’s where i”m gonna start with logic
[BWM] then the electronic value will go up with the forex trading..
[BWM] they need the right amount of sellers and the right amount of buyers to find equilibrium…
[BWM] so high 2’s low 3’s would be optimum number…
[BWM] Joe P. now
[BWM] I gonna throw out the 26 trillion number.. and if they have 85% of them recalled
[BWM] sorry Eagle was speaking..
[BWM] so I would go with high 3’s as my number…
[BWM] the number will be based on the number out of country in circulation
[BWM] so Joe asks is there a trillion dinar in country… Eagle says it may be IN country but not necessarily in circulation…
[BWM] Joe asks are you basing on citizens held or whoever owns it…
[BWM] Eagle says they are probably holding 2.2 trillion in country in various stages the smallest percentage being in the ppl’s hands
[BWM] Joe responding.. if there is 1/2 billion now in ppl’s hands (non zero notes) they don’t have to release lower denoms but in order to swap mid tier denoms they have you are right because when you release the lower denoms you have to raise that rate
[BWM] BL saying they don’t have that much money.. banks or businesses may have money but no one else has money
[4/19/2011 10:29:24 PM] Randeee: [BWM] 7 million on welfare and living in poverty conditions
[BWM] 4 trillion left out there and half of that has to be lower denoms (over 1 trillion) then all the reserves of the world are holding palettes of dinar
[BWM] George Bush said the war would pay for itself because we have loads of dinar
[BWM] it will help our economy…
[BWM] we have speculators.. I know someone who has huge amounts of dinar.. some ppl may need counseling from buying dinar and there’s no more left…
[4/19/2011 10:32:29 PM] Randeee:
[BWM] ppl have been allowed to buy all these years.. the number of ppl has probably doubled when we thought that we were there…
[BWM] everyday i see someone new who just bought into this investment…
[BWM] everyone won’t cash in at once… reserves will be held
[BWM] 1 trillion won’t crash them…
[BWM] david jumping back in
[BWM] we have touched the rates… so what about the date
[BWM] I am not consumed about it happening the 20th of april but where do we stand with the prerequisites of an rv…
[BWM] HL speaking…
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[4/19/2011 10:34:42 PM | Edited 10:34:49 PM] Randeee: [BWM] wto is an interesting consideration… if you really look at their rules they had a large meeting in january…
[BWM] Shabs went, M went A went.. I don’t believe that kind of firepower goes to that meeting for no reason
[BWM] I believe that an ascension date has been set…
[BWM] it has to be within 3-6 months…
[BWM] they cannot get another 3 months… so WTO is imminent
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